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Jan 2011

Chapter 13 bankruptcy: Why it’s picked by only 5% of my clients

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Chapter 13 is selected by less than 5% of my Virginia bankruptcy clients.  For other people filing bankruptcy in Northern Virginia, it’s about 20%.  That statistic jumped out from a computer study of cases filed in bankruptcy court for Northern Virginia for the last six weeks of 2010.

You might wonder if we avoid Chapter 13 bankruptcy because we don’t know how to do them.  Actually, our firm has really good qualifications to do them–but only when they are needed.

Lori Rupp, our Chapter 13 Senior Paralegal, was paralegal for the Chapter 13 Trustee in Flint Michigan.

I moderated the panel of bankruptcy judges on Chapter 13 at the NACBA national convention when the 2005 law took effect.

I have a whole website on how we can use it to get rid of second mortgages.   And I have a blog post on innovative use of Chapter 13 bankruptcy for people with overwhelming student loans.

Virginia Bankruptcy Lawyer Robert Weed

We’ve done nearly a thousand Chapter 13 bankruptcies–and we know that for most people, Chapter 7 is better.

We’ve done nearly one thousand Chapter 13’s.

We know a lot–including knowing enough to avoid Chapter 13 unless there’s some good reason to be there.

Why?  One reason is most of them fail.  In the last six weeks, there were 200 filed in Northern Virginia–and 120 were dismissed.   That works out to a failure rate of 60%.

Second, they are unpredictable.  Under the 2005 bankruptcy law, you are required to send your tax forms to the trustee every year.  If there’s an “unforeseen” increase in your income, the trustee can ask the judge to increase your payments.   You can get your case approved paying a couple hundred dollars a month–and end up paying over a thousand.  (Richmond Bankruptcy Judge Judge Keith Phillips explains that here.  Swain decision – KLP.)

(Bankruptcy is supposed to be a new start in life and clear field for future effort. I don’t think it’s much of a new start if the trustee can keep coming back asking for more.)

Third, it’s worse for your credit.   You start getting back to good credit when you get your bankruptcy discharge.  In a Chapter 7, that’s about four months.  In Chapter 13, it’s sometimes three and usually five years.

(About half the creditors keep reporting you as late every month of your payment plan–piling on five more years of bad credit.  Christine Wolk, a NACBA member out of Wisconsin, got her judge there to say that’s illegal.  You can download that Judge’s ruling here.  I’ve tried challenge to that unfair credit reporting here, too, but these judges did not see it my way.)

Chapter 13’s often fail.  Your payment is unpredictable.  They are worse for your credit.  For those reasons, and a few others, for most people, I think Chapter 7 works better.

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Robert Weed has helped twelve thousand people file bankruptcy in Northern Virginia. Robert Weed is a frequent panelist and speaker at the meetings of the National Association of Consumer Bankruptcy Attorneys. He is one of Northern Virginia’s most experienced personal bankruptcy lawyers. As an expert on changing consumer bankruptcy laws, Robert Weed has been interviewed on local and national TV and quoted in newspapers across the country.

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  • Tamer E.

    January 7, 2011, pm31 2:53 PM
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    I went to see Mr Weed with the intention to file chapter 7, starting from my first meeting , I was very impressed with the level of professionalism and organization that they had. Prior to my first meeting they asked me to fill out some forms that would paint a very detailed picture of my financial situation. Filling out the paperwork was tedious but definitely very beneficial in terms of enabling Mr Weed in helping me through the process of taking the right decision. By the end of the second meeting Mr Weed suggested to me the best option and that was not to proceed with the filling at that time, needless to say that he did not charge me for the 2 meetings I had with him and his paralegal.
    I would strongly recommend Mr Weed, his honesty and ethics are truly what people need in such hardship.

  • Robert Weed

    Robert Weed

    February 2, 2012, pm29 5:21 PM
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    http://drive2credit.com

    This company was created to fund CH 13 cars.

  • Jenny

    June 21, 2016, pm30 3:01 PM
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    How does one qualify for chapter 7? I’m a single mom and make $55,000 a year. My daughter receives survivor benefits each month but that barely covers her child care expenses. I understand to qualify for chapter 7, it is based off your state’s median income. I am over that by about $6,000. I have about $20,000 in credit card debt and my student loans will soon be due.

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