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12

Mar 2020

After Bankruptcy, OneMain Offers Car Reaffirmation Negotiation

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In the last few months, OneMain has been contacting me about reaffirmation negotiation on car loans.

That took me by surprise.

With the exception of Ford Credit, I’ve been strongly opposed to reaffirming cars.  Usually you can keep the car without reaffirming. and then give it back when your credit improves. I explain more about that, here. 

Car reaffirmation take it or leave it

Most car reaffirmations come to me on original terms, full balance, take it or leave it. OneMain is NOT doing that.

OneMain figured out that they don’t want you to give them the car back when your credit improves, so they are offering you a better deal now. Up ’til now, I had never seen a car finance company really offer car reaffirmation negotiation. They wanted people to reaffirm the entire balance at the current interest rate on a take it or leave it basis. 

But OneMain has come through with real balance and interest reductions. Taking a terrible loan and making it pretty good. If that’s on a car that you have been taking good care of–and been lucky to avoid problems with–then that makes sense.

Basically, here’s how this works. Get an accurate value on your car. Kelly Blue Book is one place. (Carmax offers on line, here.) We need to email OneMain, at this email cbp@omf.com, with the Blue Book value and say we’re willing to reaffirm based on that value at 6.0%.  

OneMain then will send back a reaffirmation on that basis. At least a lot of the time. (Sometimes I’ve seen them add a little.)

PS  I need to apologize to one of my clients last year, Kandy. Kandy believed OneMain’s offer when I thought it was just more smoke and mirrors. She was right and I was wrong. OneMain does seem to genuinely be willing to work out a new deal for you to keep the car.  This is my apology, Kandy.

 

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30

Jan 2020

Right After Bankruptcy, Carla Signed on a Car Loan

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Right After Bankruptcy, Carla Signed on a Car Loan and She’s Probably Gonna Lose Her House

I tell people please please please, do not get a car loan until at least two years after your Chapter 7 bankruptcy.

 

Two years after bankruptcy, I’m seeing people get car loans in the 6%-8% range. Three years in the 2%-4% range.

 

So please please please do NOT tie yourself to a 24% car loan right after filing bankruptcy. Here’s a true story that tell you why not.

 

after bankruptcy car loan

Please please please do not tie yourself to a 24% car loan right after bankruptcy.

Carla filed bankruptcy with me in 2014. Six months later, she co-signed on a car loan for her sister. The loan was financed by Credit Acceptance, at 24% interest. 

 

After a year, the sister stopped paying. Carla paid for a while, but when she stopped, or course that car got repossessed January 2017.

 

Fast forward to 2019. Credit Acceptance gets a judgment for $8600, attaches that Judgment to Carla’s house, and puts a garnishment on her pay check.

 

Carla is stuck. She can’t afford the house payment while being garnished. It’s too soon to file Chapter 7 bankruptcy, again. And if she could, the equity she’s built up since 2014 means the bankruptcy court would take and sell her house. And while she’s eligible for a Chapter 13 bankruptcy payment plan, she can’t afford that payment, either. (Under Virginia law, with terrible equity protection for single people, her Chapter 13 would have to pay all her debts in full.)

 

Two mistakes. First co-signing for someone whose credit was worse that hers!! Second, letting the dealer arrange financing at a terrible rate.

 

If you have to finance a car shortly after bankruptcy, shop for the car loan, before you shop for the car.

While it’s especially important right after bankruptcy, that’s always good advice. Shop for the car loan, before you shop for the car. (Unless the factory is having trouble selling their cars, dealer financing will always be more expensive than the best loan you can get for yourself.)

 

Sometimes, some people have no choice. They have to finance a car just a few months after bankruptcy. If you really have to, here are some of the places you can look.

 

722 Redemption Funding. These people are in the business of car loans immediately after bankruptcy is filed. they will put you in a bad loan; but probably a much better loan than the horrible loan a car dealer would recommend.

Bankruptcydrive.com is a new company that contacted me recently. I don’t know much about them.

Tower Federal Credit Union. Tower is the largest credit union in Maryland, and they make car loans to people in Virginia. I’ve seen them make loans to people right after bankruptcy that were better than I expected.

 

I’m not recommending any of these three. What I recommend is getting at least two years after your bankruptcy discharge before you finance a car. But if for some reason you can’t wait, shop for the loan before you shop for the car. And shop at least three places: try to get the best bad deal you can get.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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13

Jul 2019

Credit scores after bankruptcy are close to national average, in just three years

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I just finished a survey of people who filed bankruptcy with me three years ago. Here’s one big thing I found out: credit scores three years after bankruptcy are almost the national average.  

Right about half of the people who filed bankruptcy with me three years ago have a score above 670. A 670 score is considered “good” by Experian.  That’s a little less than the population as a whole, where 60% of people are above that 670 score. 

Some people will be surprised that credit scores after bankruptcy are that high. 

There’s an urban legend that you have to go for seven years with bad credit after bankruptcy.  People tell me all the time they expect to go seven years with bad credit. Other people wonder if there credit score will drop below 400.  

Have you heard anything like that?  It’s not true. 

Besides this survey of people who filed bankruptcy with me, I can point you to two studies by the Federal Reserve.  The Federal Reserve Bank of New York found that “the individuals who go bankrupt experience a sharp boost in their credit score after bankruptcy.” And, the Philadelphia Federal Reserve found that people with a before bankruptcy 540 can expect an after bankruptcy credit score of around 620.

Debt settlement scammers, nosy family members, and some financial gurus will want you to think filing bankruptcy ruins your credit.  But, none of them will put it in writing, because it’s just not true.

I’m surprised the credit scores after bankruptcy aren’t higher.

I think nearly everybody can get their credit scores above 670 three years after bankruptcy.

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I think nearly everybody should have a credit score after bankruptcy above 670 in three years.

The answer is in another question from my survey. My survey asked people if they got a new credit card in the first year after the bankruptcy. And 43% said, “No.”  That’s a problem.

People tell me, when we go to the bankruptcy hearing together, “I never want to see another credit card.” But, if you want a good credit score after bankruptcy, you have to.

Bankruptcy freezes your old bad credit, it doesn’t erase it. So you need to build good credit on top of it. 

That means you need to go out and get a credit card.  (You’ll get some offers in the mail, but you can also internet search ‘credit scores for bad credit.’) Charge gasoline every month; pay it in full every month.  In that way, within six months you’ll get several more good offers; use each card once a month and pay them in full.  Each week use a different credit card to charge your gasoline, and pay them all in full.  You want to get credit cards with higher credit limits, but you want to keep your actual balances low.

Summary What Does it All Mean?

If you are considering bankruptcy, don’t believe the urban legends. Three years after bankruptcy, your credit can be almost as good as new.  If you have filed bankruptcy, don’t turn your back on your credit. Carefully build a yourself a good credit score after bankruptcy.

Want to find out more on your after bankruptcy credit score? 

After bankruptcy, check these five websites. 

After bankruptcy, getting your credit report right.  

Mike’s after bankruptcy credit score is 681.

 

 

 

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